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electric accordion Email to a Friend RSS Syndication Posted on Mon, Oct 11 2004 C'mon, it had to happen sometime. Roland presents: the first digital accordion. Before you laugh too much, it would be a nice addition to a synth collection whether you use accordion sounds or not. The one thing an accordion excels at would be incredible dynamics, for instance, a crecendo within a chord. Hook it up via MIDI to something like a Hammond Organ simulator and you've got yourself some incredibly expressive new colors to paint with.
It doesn't say how much it costs, but I suspect it's not cheap. Seeing as how I already have two analog accordions, I probably should try to resist this one. :) I am sure Sara will approve this expenditure. *laughs*
> Hi everyone; I have an electravox accordion but no power supply or cables,does
> anyone know what the pinout connectors are for and ,or,any help at all? I see the "reply to" is "hohner acordavoxD", though you ask for details on the Electravox. Assuming it is the latter then I built a power supply for my father from a reproduced service manual that he obtained for it (Hohner Electravox N). He has also since acquired an "Electravox de Luxe" and another service manual so that I could determine whether the two accordions were electrically compatible and possibly interfaced to the same power supply by suitable adaptor cables. Sadly they are not as the Electravox de Luxe PSU generates both a negative and a positive rail, whereas the other is just a single positive rail. The upshot is that you will need to be extremely careful to precisely specify your particular model, otherwise you may get caught out and do considerable damage! Brendan. I have a Hohner Electravox with, cables, electric power suply, amplifier, and the whole stuff, and I would like to know about what year it was produced, if anybody is interested in buy it, and if someone needs help, because I have the full diagrams.
Thank You for all. hi im iterested in the electravox . i wondered if everything works and how much do you want for it
I played an electravox for many years and always had problems with the power supply. It was also a pedal for your volume control on the accordion. It plugged into the accordion with the pin connection and thru the power supply and back out with a bananna plug to plug into an amplifier. The resistor for the volume control would go out and then you would lose the sound. It wasn't till I had a service tech rig up a plain pedal to go thru the power supply for the volume control and used the power supply for the accordion to amp connection only. They were good accordions because everything was built into the accordion. The Cordovox accordion made around the same time period used an external amp and component for the organ sound. They were also good but went out of tune most of the time. I believe the power supply was 24 volt DC. If you can get some one to fix a power supply for you and make up the same connector for the accordion with a volume control pedal, this could have the bananna plug for the amplifier. Good Luck
I also played the Electravox for many years. I had mine completely rebuilt by a Mr Frank Betting who worked at Hohner in Hicksville NY. I still have it. It worked flawlessly all the time I played. I purchased a Leslie (450 I think) cabinet and hauled it around on the back of my pickup to jobs. It had a great sound. It still plays although I think the volume control resistor needs to be cleaned.
I have an electravox that has some problems. I have a good friend that can work on anything electronic but he needs schematics for the electravox. Can anyone help? I have looked all over the web and have not had any luck tracking down the schematics on this instrument. Any ideas? Thanks, Dennis
I didnt think I had one however I found my electravox owners manual. I think there are schematics inside. I can make a copy and fax it to you if you like. I can also make a copy and mail it to you if you pay the $3.00 shipping fee. Please contact me at my email address of JL66REDCPE@aol.com
I have a Hohner Vox4P Atlantic IV N Deluxe with cables. It is too much accordion for my skills. It has not been used much. I have not even plugged in the power. Is there anyplace to get information. Or better yet does anyone want to buy it? Let me know. Thanks.
Yes you do have to use the Cordovox Amplifier. It houses the power supply that feeds the 66 vacuum tubes in the tone generator.
I have Cordovox cables, a Tone generator and an Amplifier. Drop me an email if your still looking for any Cordovox stuff. I have a complete Cordovox CG system. Works great, but have bought a Lesmann Accorgan, because I'm getting too old to lug the tone gen. and amp arround.
I intend to sell the CG as a complete system. I have 2 spare tone gens and amps. They have been butchered over the years, but I'd like to try and "build" a general purpose amp from whats left. I need info on how to do this, can anyone help an old man? John,
Making a general purpose amplifier out of your Cordovox CG equipment is a fairly big job if you want it all contained in a single cabinet. As you know, the tone generator already has high impedance inputs for Microphone and Accordion pickups. As a 2 piece set it is already somewhat of a general purpose amp. If you want a single cabinet Multi-purpose amp you'll need to add preamp stages into the Amp cabinet. The Amp cabinet contains the power supply for both the amp and the tone generator. The tone generator cabinet contains the Organ and the Pre-amp circuits required to drive the amp. Without a Pre-amp stage the Amplifier is useless. You can add a few capacitors, resistors, pots and a couple of 12AX7's to create a reasonable amp. The down side is that these amps are older than twice the life expectancy of the capacitors so they will all need to be replaced. There are no direct replacements for those cans which contain multiple caps each so you will need to replace them with discrete caps. Not that it can't be done; I've done a couple of complete recaps on these units. While you’re at it you should replace some of the resistors that are under heavy load as they get tired and values drift. If your unit still has the original selenium diodes they definitely need to be replaced. In summary, the cost and effort of transforming one of these into a general purpose amp is much greater than just purchasing an amp already designed for such use. Not to mention other features your Cordovox won’t have such as reverb, tremolo, effects loop, etc. On the other hand if you're like me and you just enjoy projects, this amp has a good power transformer that will support plenty of preamp tubes. I've transformed one of these into a guitar amp and I'm about to convert another one. You can find plenty of preamp schematics of the web. Just pick the one that closest fits your needs and technical skill level. Have fun with it!! Hello:
My friend bought from ebay a cordovox 210 which is the totally self-contained unit with the generator under the grill. Together we located a schematic of it. Now the problem is how to take the stack of generator boards apart sequentially in a correct order so that we don't break anything. We have an organ repairmen who said he could fix the electronics but has no clue as how carefully disassemble the layer upon layer of boards. Anybody out there that could provide me with a name and phone number or a website that could help us would be doing us a great favor. We'd love to get this old instrument of the past going. The accoustic part sounds quite good----now the electronic part. Thank you to all in advance. Dolen Freeouf-----Crete, Nebraska After years of playing the trombone in Europe I want to try my old skills on the accordeon again.
I played on the Atlantic all the tango's , at the age of 15.. So, still for sale...? Kindest regards , Thomas from Rotterdam.... I was playing my electravox the day before yesterday. Everything worked fine except the volume control was having problems. I took the instrument apart and repaired the pot that controls the volume. When I put it back together the B note keys were sounding as an E note and the E flat key sounded like a foghorn. Also the percussion lights were not lit. Anyone able to point me in a helpful direction. The volyume control is a ocmplete separate entity and nothing else was touched.
I just got an old Cordovox ...name plate on the tone generator says MODEL CG. The accordion itself is the one with no rotary switches...and the only colored tab controls is the Treble on/off....so maybe a CG2? Anyhow, I set it up and turned it on, and found that many keys and a couple of bases aren't working. Then I discovered why...some mice chewed the wire harness in the tone generator...but only the wires for the accordion umbilical cord...right at the connector block inside the tone generator. Any chance that you have a replacement cord that I could plug into the generator? If not...do you maybe have a replacement connector block with the new pins? I could then cut my harness back by about two inches, and re-solder the wires into the new block connector. Shipping would be to North Branch MI 48461. Thanks.
hello dolen...I have recently acquired a cordovox 210 and found that the percussion buttons do not work on any of the settings. I am in the process of disassembling the cordovox a little at a time to see whether I can find something easily detectable, like loose or disconnected wire, burnt component, or bad connection. A schematic of this cordovox, which you say you have, would come in handy and would allow me to fully disassemble the instrument to check it out. Once I've done so, I could email you back to tell you how to disassemble the layers of boards you need to work on. I've already gotten some insight from an ex-repairman, but he also agrees that to continue further it would be best to have a schematic. Can I ask you to please send me a copy of the schematic for the cordovox 210...either via email or postal mail...I will be happy to pay the expense! Thank you!
I have recently acquired a cordovox 210 that is in exceptional shape, except the 4', 8', and 16' percussion buttons do not have any affect on the sound out...as a matter of fact, in any instance when any of these buttons are pushed, it produces no sound out at all. I think there may be a shorted component in the percussion circuit...but I have no schematics to follow...does anyone have an idea of what the problem may be or where to look for the problem component? Thanks so much for ANY help!!!!
Hello,
Except the complete Electravox we sell, we do not have the part you're looking for. Come on "instrumantiq.com" website to register as member (free of charge), will be able to advise you if any thing comes.
Cordially, Gilles
My mail : contact@instrumantiq.com
Happy new year
Hello,
There is this Cordovox amp on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Cordovox-Accordion-Amp-with-Jensen-Speakers_W0QQitemZ360014327720QQihZ023QQcategoryZ16218QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem
and I was wondering if it was possible to turn this into a guitar amp? Any help would be much appreciated.
Hi there, I own a complete Cordovox set up including the Lesley and want to sell it. All is in excellent working condition. Can anyone tell me where I might find a buyer? I'm asking 1100.00 and believe that is a steal. I'm I wrong? Thanks
Looking to sell a 1960s Cordovox complete w/ Lesley in excellent condition. Can someone tell me where to post it? Thanks.
Hi
I have a Hohner Electravox that has been put away for 25 years or more. When I quit playing it everything worked. I have some paper work and diagrams for a Sanovox which I also played for a long time back in the 60's. Both accordions played exactly the same. I'm thinking about listing the Hohner on e bay. I sold the Sanovox a few years ago. I have the box but I'm not sure if it works or if its even for the Electravox. If you want to call, my # is 440-960-1155. Thanks, Al
Well to start with , I just got a complete set up like you have and I payed 400.00 US for it .
That might be the problem rite there , I got one back in the 70s and I payed 1400.00 for it , it got stolen out of my van when we were moving from the place we were playing at , Insurance payed me 1000.00 for it and I just made up my mind to get another one now and I was lucky to find a good one very Lucky .
So you can start from what I just told you and work from there ............ all I can say is Your wrong in trying to get so much for it .
EBay , but be realalistick on the price , I am looking for another one for one other place that we play at, then I won't have to keep moving this one around the country .
If you can come up with a better price , I could be interested in it . I live on the west Coast of Canada , where are you ?
Hello,
Sorry but I just get an Electravox. It is on my site. Ask for pictures as soon as you are on the site :
http://www.instrumantiq.com/pages_html/galeries_RVX-accordeons.htm
Its reference on the site is REX-568
Cordially / instrumantiq / mail : info@instrumantiq.com / tel (France) : 00 33 1 79 92 00 33 / Mob : 00 33 6 08 96 31 54
You don't seem to want to anserwer me ......I sent you a couple messages and got know responce from you ........so guess that you don't want to sell that ACCORDION .........?
Hello, I'm not sure you're talking to me...I have an Electravox and not a Cordovox. / Bye
Bruce J. grady on Jan 28 2008 @ 23:11 (anonymous)
Cordovox system
Hi there, I own a complete Cordovox set up including the Lesley and want to sell it. All is in excellent working condition. Can anyone tell me where I might find a buyer? I'm asking 1100.00 and believe that is a steal. I'm I wrong?
Hello Bruce J Grady
You say you have a set up for sale (Cordovox) .
How much do you want for it ......you will not get the 1100.00 That you want , because , I can pick them up for 350 to 550 for everything . So lets get real OK Call me jdenchuk@hotmail.com
bonjour à tous,
je serais heureux de prendre contact avec personnes possédant soit une alimentation et le cordon qui va avec pour mon electravox N; sinon, les shémas de ce même appareil. merci d'avance. cordialement
hello! please I'm looking for persons who have a sub pawer and cable for electravox N (to sell) or copies's shematics.
kind regards
Hi, I have a Hohner Electravox, I bought it many years ago with the idea of learning to play. Well not only can I still not play I feel the time has arrived for me to find this instrument a new owner. Everything works as far as I can tell but then again I am not an expert, it is complete with it's power transformer. The seperate amplifier also has a speaker that turns (spins) this makes the sound similar to the Hammond organ, the amplifier has recently stopped working for some reason althought the speaker still spins. I would apprecite any help or advice as to value. Would anyone be interested in such an old instrument?.
Contact William Steele via e-mail or (44) 01454 614197
Hello
I finally displayed the pictures of my Electravox, that I sell, on the site instrumantiq.com. I'll answer to all questions.
Thank you
Larry,
I think your problem weak volume problem lies in the preamp section which is housed in that little box with the two 12AX7's on the Tone Generator. It may just be one of the preamp tubes but I have worked on a number of these units with the same problem and it is likely the caps and resistors in that little box.
does anyone know where or how I can get some audio samples of the cordiovox accordion in action?
I'm trying to decide whether to buy one from yahoo auctions, and since I'm in Japan I think it would be a pretty rare find and difficult to otherwise obtain without heading back to the US. The seller doesn't know about the condition of the instrument and suggests taking it to the shop . . . it looks good in the photos . . . what do yall think, too much of a gamble (maybe I can grab it for 300 $) . . . thing looks cool. I need to hear what it sounds like! Tough decision! Any advice ROCKS, thanks.
> does anyone know where or how I can get some audio samples of the cordiovox
> accordion in action? I'm trying to decide whether to buy one from yahoo
> auctions, and since I'm in Japan I think it would be a pretty rare find
> and difficult to otherwise obtain without heading back to the US. The seller
> doesn't know about the condition of the instrument and suggests taking it
> to the shop . . . it looks good in the photos . . . what do yall think,
> too much of a gamble (maybe I can grab it for 300 $) . . . thing looks cool.
> I need to hear what it sounds like! Tough decision! Any advice ROCKS,
> thanks.
The Cordovox had a good deep bass sound but the electronics that produced it were unreliable. I have Cordovox tone generator I don't use any more because it's too heavy. Instead I have a small MIDI adaptor box I add to the front of the Cordovox accordion onto the connectors which allows me to play through any MIDI sound generator or into a laptop for creating music. The accordion doe snot need to be modified.I can make the MIDI adaptor box available.
What did the Cordovox sell for new? I recently saw an invoice for one a friend purchased in 1967 discounted down to $1,800. It seems like the list price was $2,400 if memory serves.
Previous posters have stated claims that the Cordovox wasn't very successful and that they were unreliable. I don't think either of these claims is very accurate. I don't know how many units they produced, but I am sure it was an astounding number considering the price. Everywhere I turn I'm still seeing these things. When you consider that they had 70 vacuum tubes and hundreds of capacitors with plenty of resistors under tremendous load and most of them are still running, it amazes me. It's hard to find simple guitar amps with a fraction of the components from that era still running that haven't been overhauled. Consider that the manufacturer’s mean time before failure rating on the filter caps was only 20 years and 90 percent of the units I've serviced still have all the originals in place and operating fine at over 40 years old.
The old joke "Q: What is the definition of perfect pitch?" "A: someone who can throw a Cordovox into a dumpster without hitting another Cordovox" is testament to the number of them that were out there.
I have an Electrovox Accordion by Universal. It plays beautifully.
I am trying to sell it as I have not played it in many years and desperately need to supplement our income.
My parents purchased it for me in abt 1976. I also have a Universal Amplifier that was purchased new with the Accordion.
I am missing the power cord/pedal it was misplaced during a difficult relocation. I have been trying to research where to replace it if possible so the person who eventually purchases my beautiful accordion will be able to operate it at it's full potential. I have placed a posting on Craig's List, High Desert(Inland Empire), CA musical instruments. I posted pictures as well.
I am listing it for $750 since it's missing the power cord and a couple of small decals, also needs new straps and a pad. Price negotiation possible option.
Bellows are in excellent operating condition. Still in original case and has been kept at temp controlled atmosphere.
I always planned on keeping it for life and passing it down although nobody in our family plays but with economic times, need to do something.
Hoping to hear from someone.
Hi, I am not sure if you are still interested in the MIDI adaptor which plugs into the front of the Cordovox so as to have a MIDI out. It allows for using all the sounds of MIDI tone generators such as the Solton, Korg, Roland, etc. and allows for using wireless MIDI for freedom from cables. I have designed and make the MIDI adaptors for the Cordovox accordions.
Cheers,
Lino
Hi, I am not sure if you are still interested in the MIDI adaptor which plugs into the front of the Cordovox so as to have a MIDI out. It allows for using all the sounds of MIDI tone generators such as the Solton, Korg, Roland, etc. and allows for using wireless MIDI for freedom from cables. I have designed and make the MIDI adaptors for the Cordovox accordions. You don't have to lug the tone generator cabinets around any more.
Cheers,
Lino
My uncle passed & when cleaning his house came across a Accordovox Model# C G-V other #s 1070/42 also has old Amp,Pedal& all the cables. It all works! Anyone out there know what year this may be? Also if anyone is looking for one We do not have room to keep it. To nice to send to dump!
Hello, Josh!
How nice of You that You had answered my advertisement!
Yes, I'm still looking for the electroacoustic equipment to my Cordovox Super V accordion.
My model (signed as N649/20) has two 50-pin connectors on board: one of them has 45 active pins, and the second one has 46 active pins. I have neither a generator nor an amplifier, and I need a power supplier of 115V / min.50W, with complete of cables too.
Do You have these all things? And how much would they cost?
I'll be grateful for quick answer.
With best regards from Poland -
Lech Skawinski, akordeonman@gmail.com
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Hi Josh! Can you tell me more information about LESMANN ELECTRIC CORP. and Accordion/organ model 101? I'm looking for Pedal with 6 pin male cable connector. I don't know nothing about generator, etc. Your answer will be very appreciated
Hi, i recently purchased a Cordovox CAG-1 Amp/Speaker cab. Im wondering there is a cut off black insulation out the back with like 30 thin wires inside it, i was wondering what these are? also when turned on it has a really cool organy sound, however when a keyboard or guitar is plugged in to the 1/4 inch inputs on top it just sounds clean
Hello John,
I can't be sure what year it was made from that number. I think that was some sort of production number because the numbers don't seem to be sequential to dates. I can tell you they built the "CG systems" from 1963 through 1969 then they introduced a solid state version in 1970. These are really fascinating systems. They were the hot ticket back in the day and very expensive. Unfortunately current technology has left them relatively unwanted though there are still a few people who would love to have one. It's sad that these don't have any collector interest like old guitars and keyboards because from an engineering standpoint they are far more complex and fascinating relics. What part of the country are you located in? I may know of someone who would be interested. Hello Tom,
Your Cordovox CAG-1 is the tone generator/amplifier for a Cordovox accordion. It was the first solid state unit they produced. The cordovox accordion had a large trunk cable that ran to the tone generator/amp. It was a combination accordion/organ. As all the capacitors are beyond there sevice life, they are leaking and allowing the organ notes to ring a bit. When you plug your guitar or keyboard into one of the aux inputs it switch's the organ out of the circiut. They are certainly a marvel of history. I have a complete working system and find it amusing to play with from time to time. Hi Techjeff,
Thanks for your reply! It s been very hard finding info for this one on the net. I guess that explains the wires and sound, however, is there a way at all that this can be re- routed to allow one to say, plug in a Wurlitzer or other organ/keyboard, into the organs circuit? Thanks Hello,
does anybody know something more about Paolo Soprani Organ accordions ? I need a help in electronic schematics to it. Here is the link to some photos: http://pro.cal.pl/lskawinski/oferta_biezaca/wkrotce.html I'd be grateful for any information. With friendly regards from Poland - Lech Skawinski http://akordeony.xx.pl ====================== Tom,
Where there is a will there is a away. It would take a lot of will in this case, and the end result would be less than practical. Not that it would be all that difficult but that it would be quite time consuming. The large trunk cable contains wires for each key on the accordion keyboard, the bass notes on the left hand side of the accordion, voices, and a number of affects such as sustain, vibrato, percussion,etc. All you have to do is wire the notes to the keys on your keyboard and any of the effects you want to use to switches. It's all analog, just wires and switches. But when you consider the CAG-1 organ doesn't sound all that great and yours is already in need of an overhaul (new capacitors)it just doesn't seem like a good use of time. I've considered wiring mine to my Rodgers Theater Organ but for the same effort I can interface the organ to something much better. These units are great for their intended purpose but not so great for anything else. In the hands of a good accordion player they sound wonderful but I can't find any other good use for them. WILLING TO SELL CG-5, AMP; GEN; IN EXCELLENT COND. ASKING $300
Hi Guys and Gals,
Just got a Sanovox nice and cheap. Anyone know how to connect it? Does it have a special amp too? Here's what I have: A 7-pin connector that connects TO the accordion 2 3-pin-to-1/4 inch cables A footswitch that says T and R with a 1/4 inch plug a little foot knob that seems to be a sustain pedal with a 1/4 inch plug What am I missing? And is there a way to make this work with adaptors with any old amp? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Dave I have a restored Cordovox, 1960's, in extra fine condition
with a Cordovox MIDI adaptor kit. If you have a modern MIDI sound generator with volume pedal, you can connect to the MIDI out from the small Cordovox box adaptor that plugs into the 2-row grill plug. This system represents the lightest Cordovox MIDI system I know of. The internal mic system of this Scandalli-made accordion coupled with the digital sounds from a Korg, Ketron, Roland, or Orla module will make sounds that will please discriminating accordionists. This accordion is in truly pristine inside and out with quality excellent straps, wiring, clean spring contacts, beautiful polished finish,tight compression, excellent bellows, and a blemish-free keyboard. I have several of these units for under $1200 each. All you need to purchase is a MIDI module and a bass and/or keyboard multi-channel amp. I install stereo 1/4" mic jacks for the Cordovoxes that have a complete mic system in them. Those with a single mic have a mono 1/4" jack. I recommend using Art Pro tube preamps with these older internal mics. I use these MIDI systems for all of my professional play. These have proven to be the most reliable MIDI systems I have ever owned and I've had a lot of them. I've performed over 1700 gigs with my system like each of these with no failures at all! I do 40+ gigs a month and love this system and want others to enter the MIDI arena at an affordable cost and to recycle good Cordovox accordions. See my listings on eBay for more information. You may request photos as well. I used to have the original cordovox w/ tube generator and amp. It was stolen more than twenty years ago. I just bought a Cordovox Super V with generator and amp. The accordion is in great shape. The amp powers on but the organ tones don't work and I'm not hearing the accordion through the amp either. The generator is just a mess of circuitry and I'm not sure what to do. Any suggestions? Do you know of anyone in the Dallas Ft. Worth area that could work on this?
Hello, I have been looking around for a midi adapter for a Cordovox I have. Does this work on all models? I don't have the model of mine currently but I can get it if you need it. Also, do you have any information/specs of this device? I would like to see how it actually connects and works. Thanks for any information you might have.
-Lee
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